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# Cave and Cosmos: Shamanic Encounters with Another Reality Kindle Edition

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    One-sided view of "universal shamanism"
  

*by C***N on Reviewed in the United States on May 10, 2018*

I found this book to be somewhat disappointing. Mr. Garner's aversion to Underworld travel speaks more of his own personal prejudices against the Dark Mother than it does about the nature of the Underworld itself. His early encounter with a female Spirit named Elieth (whom he potentially equates with Lilith) only serves to encourage his "Western" worldview of good vs. evil. The ancient, shamanic worldview was not always so straightforward. Pele, Hawaiian goddess of the volcano was both destroyer and creator. Kali-Ma, fearsome with her garland of severed heads, often blessed those on the fringe of Indian society: lepers, women, and old people. Ereshkigal, Sumerian Queen of the Great Below, only showed her wrath to those who would disrespect her.And yet Mr. Harner encourages a rather one-sided brand of Shamanism, filled only with fluffy white clouds and bright blue skies. He chooses only to explore the Higher Realms, not seeming to realize that only by delving into the shadowy depths of the Underworld, can a shaman actually become a shaman. There is a reason they are known as the"wounded healer" This is dangerous, as She will continue appearing to him in more terrifying form until he acknowledges and respects her. "What we resist, persists."

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    Good for new students.
  

*by D***N on Reviewed in the United States on September 18, 2013*

Good book for beginning students of shamanism and a nice followup to Harner's "The Way of the Shaman," (1980) The two books together provide an easy beginning study and practice of what he terms "core" shamanism, a universal form of shamanism that floats free of culture. His books are essentially descriptions of techniques and reports of the visionary results..As one who learned about shamanism from Harner 27 years ago, enjoyed his teaching immensely, completing all the courses from his FSS, became a certified shamanic counselor,  taught in many small shamanic circles and worked as a shamanic healer, I, along with others have waited for this book for decades. Now I have read it with some pleasure, nostalgia and surprise that the author restricted himself to the same methods, student accounts of "journeys", a bit of personal experience and more stories of the upper world.Harner is an important central figure in returning some popular attention to shamanism as a spiritual practice so it is surprising that "Cave and Cosmos" stays so narrow in its focus while there are so many questions to discuss if shamanism is to have any chance to gain more understanding, contemporary support, and any chance of making the world a better place. To be fair, Harner has no obligation to write more broadly about the nature and place of a shamanic spiritual path in contemporary society, or the possible ways in which such a practice could engage the practitioner in contemporary concerns, but one would hope that the ordinary middle world destruction would illicit something along those lines from him.His repetitive accounts of his early experiences and the reports of "journeys" from students are interesting for those readers new to shamanism, but reports about what people do with their visionary experience are far more important and they are missing here. Do students go on to establish long term, disciplined practices? How does their introduction to shamanism change their engagement in the world? What are the obligations and responsibilities of students who successfully acquire shamanic abilities through relationships with the helping spirits? What percentage of workshop attendees get those skills and keep them? Is there an actual contemporary shamanic community beyond the next FSS workshop? Why is core shamanism so easily subsumed into the pop psych of the new age community?So definitely read Harner's two popular books. Then if you find the methods successful and wish to continue, begin a more broad, serious study and practice, then engage; do something with it. Mother earth needs our attention.

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    Just an amazing book that is very easy to read
  

*by J***Y on Reviewed in the United States on November 6, 2017*

Just an amazing book that is very easy to read. Michael Harner has walked the walk for decades. Straight forward information to be utilized by anyone who desires to explore themselves and the next world.My favorite part of this book is Appendix A, Ascending to the Upper World to Compare Experiences. This section provides easy to understand and follow steps to accomplish a journey to the upper world. I succeeded on my first attempt.Buy this book as a tool to help you on your own journey. The author has done us all a great service by ferreting out the esoteric information needed to succeed.

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